Kevin Grasso, PhD

Kevin Grasso and Nick Messmer are co-founders of, a website dedicated to helping people learn and retain Greek and Hebrew. Kevin stopped by to talk with David Capes on “The Stone Chapel” regarding their project and how their approach differs from other programs or website.  The bottom line is this: they draw from some of the best practices and literature on second language acquisition. Spend just 30 minutes a day and you will find yourself learning Greek or Hebrew and retaining it in ways you had not before.  Even 15 minutes a day will help you down the road.  They encourage students not to memorize words or paradigms but internalize the language.  Their innovative approach is catching on around the world.  The costs to learn Greek or Hebrew with for one year are about ½ the costs of one credit hour at a college or university.  $18 gives you complete access to learn one language for a month.  And if you have already taken Greek or Hebrew, the site will help you keep up with and improve your biblical languages skills.  Want to learn Greek and/or Hebrew and learn it for LIFE:

To listen to the podcast (20 minutes) click here.

The Stone Chapel is a podcast of the friends and staff of the Lanier Theological Library in Houston, Texas.  It is hosted by Dr. David Capes, Senior Research Fellow at the library and former faculty member at Houston Baptist University and Wheaton College.  The purpose of the podcast is to bring to our audience great conversations from the world’s leading experts in theology, biblical studies, archaeology, Church history, the Dead Sea Scrolls, ethics, ministry, and a host of other topics close to the mission of the library.

The Lanier Theological Library is a magnet for scholars, church leaders and influencers.  For the last ten years, it has welcomed hundreds of academics and church leaders from across the globe for public lectures, study, panel discussions, consultations, and encouragement.

These podcasts as well as the Lanier library and the Stone Chapel are generously underwritten by Mark and Becky Lanier and the Lanier Theological Library Foundation.  If you have questions or comments, please be in touch: Email

Poetry and Metaphor in Psalm 1

Travis Wright

Not long ago I sat down with Travis Wright, a PhD Student at Cambridge University, to discuss some of the beauty and poetry found in Psalm 1. He reads Hebrew beautifully. You get a sense not only of what it means but how it sounds.

To hear the 7 minute podcast click here.

Here is his faculty of divinity webpage:

“Exegetically Speaking” is a weekly podcast of the friends and faculty of Wheaton College, IL and The Lanier Theological Library. Hosted by Dr. David Capes, it features language experts who discuss the importance of learning the biblical languages—Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek—and show how reading the Bible in the original languages “pays off.” Each podcast lasts between seven and eleven minutes and covers a different topic for those who want to read the Bible for all it is worth.

If you’re interested in going deeper, learn more about Wheaton’s undergraduate degree in Classical Languages (Greek, Hebrew, and Latin) and our MA in Biblical Exegesis

You can hear Exegetically Speaking on SpotifyStitcherApple Podcasts, and YouTube. If you have questions or comments, please contact us at And keep listening.